u contradict urself. u get pissed by lag, yet u dont mind it? u dont like flaws in the game, but u dont mind if every player is effected negatively/positively by lag? u dont mind dying when the other guy outplays u, but what if YOU outplayed him but STILL died to lag? u dont like losing but dont attribute lag to the result?

killstreaks? what does that have to do with the discussion of lag?

no time to dig up all the posts, but even u said how "u can get a string of great games where u felt it was effortless to do well". do u really think this was because ur (EDIT: at whatever level) for X-games, then suddenly ur skill increases threefold for 10-games, then reverts back? no. its because u had a good connection, and they had a shitty one, most likely. even u said that wasnt fun for u. but i dont see why u think dying from lag IS fun. u think u can overcome the challenge of that? u like to do ur best, which is a great quality dude. but maybe ur giving the enemy too much credit! its not that their better than u necessarily; its that they have a good connection and u lag.

every game boils down to who has a better connection (for us, at least, since we often fight against US players, J-players, or whoever is in between. it is not so much a matchup of wits, skill, and working together so much as it is whoever has the good connection will most often rape face. i dont see how that is fun; to lose purely because of a serious handicap u or ur team suffers, constantly.

I do everything I can to get the most out of my car, and my own driving, in relation to this analogy. But I think this is not the issue,the issue is with the track. This is exactly the reason I abandoned the chubakka account - I couldnt stand getting put in with crappy connections any longer. But for the moment, what other track do we have to drive on??

Im not sympathetic towards the game, I know there are a lot of things that could be improved. Dunno what's happening with that, but are they going to fix anything anymore or is that it, like mw2?

I'm doing this shit from my celly cuz I'm at onsen right now!

Ban: im sorry if my lag rant has crossed boundaries and become a ban rant. that was not my purpose. i was a bit flustered that u mentioned the stats thing, but i know when i started out FPS i didnt care about that either. i was just enjoying playing, as im sure u are too. that said, i still think my race car analogy is pretty spot on! =) a player needs to control himself accurately, otherwise he is just an accident waiting to happen. likewise, a racer needs control of his car, not the track, in order to perform well. the track is like the map. definitely shapes how the game is played, but does not affect how the racer controls his actual movement.

Kuz: i do vow to stop supporting companies that give the players the shaft. i will still play the games i have, and try to milk as much enjoyment out of them as i can. ill probably be playing it right after this post, but the more lag creeps into my brain and effects my equilibrium, the closer i will be to 'retiring' the game.

Yo kuz no offense taken at all - and don't get me wrong, I think stats are fun and important, but I take it with a grain of salt - the game is just too inconsistent for me to give KDR too much weight. Otherwise, I wouldn't play mostly TDM and the SPAS12 wouldn't be my second most used gun by a longshot lol and I would wear killstreaks that get me kills instead of streaks that mostly just distract the other team. I recognize that u have much more experience with FPSs and you are a better player than me in every aspect, but I wonder what your KDR would be if you used the SPAS12 all the time and played mostly TDM?? I want to get into gun battles and win them, that's what's fun for me. I take virtually no satisfaction in predicting spawns or monitoring choke points or farming kills in a spawn trap situation. That's just me.

When we play as a team I may have other objectives. Just saying expecting the game to give you a good hand every time so your KDR can keep going up is unrealistic since the game is what it is and it is also a recipe for frustration and then abandonment of the game altogether.

I do care about doing well every game, and I get frustrated when some lucky Fer gets me or I outplay someone but I get killed by dumb teammates, lag, etc.. Hell I get pissed off when guys are better than me too! it's what drives me to get better. I refuse, however, to let a bad game linger any longer than the lobby screen since I am not a major league player, and I am doing this purely for enjoyment.

I am not the best communicator sometimes, (haha, ORLY??) and I'm sure by now you can see that this is really all about my however misguided efforts to persuade you to continue playing this game since I want to play it more and it's better when we can play together. Do you know who I have on my friends list? You and dux and Guz and Red and my RL friend and a few others that are somehow connected to the squirrels and thats it. If you stop, it's just gonna get lonely you know?? And that's the selfish matter at the core of all this debate, at least from my side.

Regarding the whole stat thing, & playing for each round independently, I honestly can say that this would have no effect on how I feel about the game. I'm a nerd, I care about my stats to an extent. To me, playing how you want, switching it up, etc & generally holding the same level of performance is what I like. Consistency. I care about my stats to the point that they accurately reflect my ability as a player without having to tailor my playing style to a certain way. An example is UC2 for me. My K/D there is a 3.15; I did whatever I felt like, not relying on power weapons, etc. There were guys w/ 4.0s but they were stupid as they couldn't do anything except camp it up w/ a big party.

Anyway, the point of this is that there is no level of consistency with this game. Even your "bars" are not that telling; I've dominated in games w/ 2 against decent players, & got stomped w/ 4 against crap players. Thing is, it goes both ways too. The sense of accomplishment is non-existent really, regardless of if you go 4-15 or 40-3. I get beat up, I usually call total bullshit on at least 75% of my deaths. Conversely, dominating in a game just sort of has that "eh" feeling associated w/ with it. Did I truly beat them? Were they just on the short end of the connection stick this time? Basically, regardless of the outcome, the game feels very empty to me. I've actually begun to disregard my stats, but even playing "one round at a time" the level of frustration is just too high. & I'm not what I'd consider an "angry" player, but no other game makes me rage like CoD. Playing with you guys is kinda lame too, as Dux said, I feel like a liability.

Without going into game mechanics too much, another thing that really gets me is that poor player not only can outgun you, but can do well. There is nothing that bothers me more than KNOWING you beat that guy in that head to head duel, only to have the game call it in his favor. & it happens constantly. In resistance, 40Mil scrubbers may annoy the hell out of you, but at the end of the day they go even. COD is the only game I know of where this doesn't hold true. In the end, the outcome of the game is left to chance, yours or theirs. While I won't deny that it can be fun, the fact that all encounters outcomes are seemly random kills it.
& the way they treat everyone is flat out not OK..

To be clear, I will continue to play this game out till its life-cycle ends. But no future purchases from me. Stick to your guns, K, Kuzu?

Soo.. In summation.. SCREW COD & ITS CRAPPY EVERYTHING!

Dux, don't worry about you getting kicked out and shit. It's the COD servers they are and always will be one of the worst servers for any game. If we play LBP2 together I guarantee that we would not have any connection issues. Same goes with Killzone and Resistance, I never encountered any problem when I joined you in either game.

If you guys want decent servers try MoH or MAG. I prefer MAG, but it's not for everyone.

Hopefully lazy Activision pushes a patch out to fix the problems you guys are having.

Too bad. I really hoped this game would be fun for longer. Last night was another typical night on COD but I didn't have much fun, maybe because of this discussion we've been having. *sigh*

I never experienced RFOM, with dedicated servers and all its wonderful attributes, sure hope the next Resistance is... revolutionary.

i had absolutely no inkling that was ur ulterior motive! just say "stop being a bitch and come play with me" that would save alot of time!

im still gonna play it, hombre. i have an addiction to gaming, that is quite honestly pretty destructive. i get about 5 hours of sleep every night, because i make time to play these god awful, adrenaline pumping, horribly inconsistent, addicting games.
last night, i didnt even blink about turning on my PS3 to play BOps. i havent changed my stance, but i love gaming so much that i cant deny my craving for it, even if i despise the company who continually shafts me. its still the newest/freshest game i have. and i can never get bored with all the weapons and playing styles. but this will be my last activision game. and no more map packs.

uve probably noticed, i join ur games time to time, because i have no one to play with either. even my hate for TDM is outweighed by my lonliness at playing hans-solo so often.
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niva: can u confirm which games have dedicated servers? (from most recent to older games) thanks!

Don't be a prick, dude.  None of us have ever claimed COD to be "the end all" when it comes to FPS's.      

Additionally, as I'm sure you are aware, your opinions on the COD series are neither visionary nor original.  The drawbacks to these titles have been well documented & conversed over ad infinitum.  There are pros & cons to all of the titles out there, even the ones you seem to hold so high in regard.

Predictive you may have been for some of our player's disappointment & disenchantment, but do you really enjoy rubbing that in their faces?  I could understand if you held those people in contempt, but we're a clan here.  Wouldn't you've rather had your prediction about such a thing NOT come true?  Wouldn't you've rather people had gotten full enjoyment out of their game & expressed sincere sympathy for those that it didn't happen for?

I like you, niv.  I like all of our clan members.  You are often helpful & tend to provide different opinions on things while sticking to them.  I know the value of such a thing, even if I often don't agree with you.

That being said, this post of yours didn't impress me.

Sam Halpern said something regarding my problem with your post that I'd like to paraphrase:

   "You always have the right to be an asshole.  You just shouldn't exercise that right very often."  

If it hasn't already, as you get older, life may show you why.  

Red, I believe that you misunderstood my first post regarding "trouble in paradise"; I merely stated it that way simply because that is what most of the clan has been playing. Hell you could've said the same thing to me when Killzone 2 came out.

I never once proclaimed my opinions to be original or revolutionary. I was stating simply what I have experienced. I know that most if not all of the faults in the COD franchise has been "documented", but to what extent? There is barely information out there from gaming sites that are respected that would dare tarnish the COD franchise. My comment about Activision fixing the problems was not me being sarcastic. I was being serious because they rarely fix their games now. Even IW has problems with fixing games too. I wasn't rubbing anything in, I was sympathizing with everyone on here. I know how you all feel when you can't join each other, or even get in some decent games/matches.

I just heard that there is a new MW3 being released this November.